Monday, May 11, 2009
Upfront: with Dr. Gwee Li Sui
Foreword
Dr Gwee Li Sui is currently an Assistant Professor in the Department of English Language and Literature, National University of Singapore (NUS). He has been teaching a wide array of courses including introductory world literature, 18th-century fiction, poetry and criticism in NUS for the last 6 years. His current research interest includes 17th and 18th century literature, British and German Romanticism, Modern German literature, Singaporean literature, and last but not least, Reformation and Modern Theology.
Dr Gwee came into prominence at the height of the AWARE saga when his written notes on the topic were widely publicized. In his writings, he provided from the Christian perspective an opposition voice to the religious-motivated infiltration of AWARE by a group of like-minded individuals from the Church of Our Saviour. The Kent Ridge Common is indeed honored to feature an email interview with Dr Gwee.
We sought his thoughts on the pertinent issues surrounding the AWARE saga, asking the questions that you the readers have wanted to ask all along
KRC: Do you agree that Christians today have to support liberal viewpoints actively or be castigated? If it does happen, do you think that it is natural for democratic societies to cause different groups to attempt to moderate to centrist views? How can secularists and the religious harmonise with each other?
Dr. Gwee: This question involves a central misconception I want to correct here. Respecting the space for civility among people with different worldviews and lifestyles does not need to result in the erosion of conservative religious values. Its establishment may require everyone to observe clear rules of engagement, but it does not oblige a person to compromise his or her own set of essential beliefs. This should be made clear from the start. There has always been good historical and theological basis to state that pluralism and the cultures of, say, Christianity and Islam are not at odds.
aware2 What I want therefore to get us to see is that the fear of conformity itself is a dangerous subtler way of “moderating to a centre”. It compels people to band together in self-elected groups and forgo what is unique in their own value systems for a more primitive vision of exclusiveness. In this vision, the world becomes too neatly organised in binary terms (good/evil, us/them), and then a whole range of features familiar in the history of politics reappear. There is nothing new about crusades, divine mandates, hidden demons, enemies, betrayers, and so on. Their simplicity conversely explains why so many forms of fundamentalist expressions feel and sound alike.
Allowing the space for others to believe differently is thus not just something one should welcome: it also brings with it benefits to one’s own belief system. For example, if I lived in a religiously homogeneous community, what would I have learnt about my fear of difference and my need to defeat fear with love? Also consider how a pluralistic space can enable me to have faith more radically or, rather, more purely. If religion is the business of one’s soul, what secularism allows is the work of clarity to be pursued individually from within and not by a convenient definition against something or someone else. One becomes a more inwardly involved and more focused believer.
KRC: There has been talk of encouraging Miss Josie Lau’s group to start their organisation to advance their own interests. Assuming that they start a women’s organisation with a similar philosophy as that of their church, the Church of Our Saviour, how do you think such an organisation will fare?
Dr. Gwee: I have no insider’s knowledge into the affairs of AWARE or the Church of Our Saviour and can only make general guesses here. I am not sure if Miss Lau and friends will go on to form their own advocacy group, but it will be very telling if they don’t. A failure will play into the persistent suspicion that their goal has been the neutralisation of an organisation they deem to have liberal leanings all along. In other words, there might be no real affirmative content to the takeover: the team could have less desire to understand the range of issues confronting diverse women than to push a myopic, value-laden, and vengeful focus. If this is true, the irony shouldn’t be lost that a covert sabotage of society is what its supporters continue to charge AWARE of.
Miss Lau’s team is no doubt thrown into a terrible dilemma now. It has a moral obligation to follow through what it has claimed to be a noble collective wish to serve women and their families. But to set up a faith-based organisation for women, new questions will emerge. Given its highly publicised origin, the group may end up attracting people who already favour the same set of values that the team holds. So how wide-reaching such a body can be is as much a concern as what it will do on a day-to-day basis. Will it take up the work of counselling any woman in need, seeking redress for others, and affirming broad-based women’s rights, what has made AWARE respectable? Or will it focus more on mounting regular assaults on what it identifies as liberal incursions into mainstream society, playing a kind of unimaginative nemesis of AWARE? In other words, will it assume a real constructive role or a mere reactionary one?
KRC: Do you think this AWARE episode would set a precedent for churches or Christian groups to adopt an anti-homosexuality stand? Should a Singapore church even adopt an anti-homosexuality agenda like their counterparts in the US? Why?
Dr. Gwee: I hope that this AWARE episode will get each church or Christian group to consider how it feels about homosexuals and whether it wants to be openly exclusive, actively inclusive, or quietly inclusive. Being quietly exclusive is the only option I do not see as helpful enough to be encouraged. To be sure, positions can vary further: the conflation of Christianity with anti-homosexuality is not as universal as particular voices in this saga have made it out to appear. It is nonetheless true that many believers in Singapore consider homosexuality more a matter of choice even when there are gay Christians and at least one gay church here. How each Christian decides to engage this small community is another open issue.
Indeed, homosexuality – and a range of issues such as abortion, surrogacy, and euthanasia – make the present time an exciting one for Christians in Singapore. We may be redrawing the lines of Christian disagreement, and these are real despite the needless discomfort some have with the fact. Internal differences have been as old as the Christian Church, and they manifest themselves in historical moments from the early Councils to events tied to the Reformation and the current diversity of Christian struggles across the world. We have to aim to reclaim such a space for divergence as Christianity’s heritage and strength, what can contain different takes on the way to practise God’s unconditional love. The abstract idea of Church itself was this early neutral all-inclusive space in which Christians could affirm both their unity and their diversity.
US influence on our churches is definitely stronger now than it has ever been at any point in Singapore’s history. It is therefore important that believers be conscious of this import in the way they worship, think, and behave and be encouraged to revisit Church history with an open mind. What cannot be helpful is a triumphalist attitude that treats the most recent Christian trends as also the most positive and privileged. It is rather painful to hear some believers talk about the events involving AWARE and their aftermath as being a battle between “traditional” Christianity and “postmodern” society. This idea that what we see as dominant in Church life today has been around for a long time needs to be examined critically. Even the current obsession with the social implications of homosexuality has a short history here.
KRC: The AWARE issue has seen a spike in membership. Do you think that these new members were there for the hype or will they be committed to the long-term future of AWARE?
Dr. Gwee: This question reminds me of another one which Miss Lau’s team used as a means to legitimise its spectacular power grab. It asserted that AWARE under the Old Guard deserved what it got since it was slack enough to have allowed its own members to become apathetic and not show up at the AGM. This was an brazenly poor excuse: just because my family members fail to appear for reunion dinner doesn’t make it right for a neighbour to kick me out of my own home. So, when, by the same measure, others help me to reclaim my space from these “trespassers”, the gesture must be read in a very particular light.
The main issue should be cast not in the form of a question but as evidence of hope; it shouldn’t keep us dithering on whether people came just out of the hype but should get us to celebrate how they did come. These individuals have chosen to participate in what many have felt to hold their personal sense of society at ransom. If the new members then go on to be involved in a number of AWARE’s activities, it can only spell good for the organisation on the whole. But, even if they don’t, my respect still goes out to them for having taken the time, money, and effort to do what mattered when it mattered. They rightly refused to let their own passivity weigh on their conscience should things in Singapore make a turn for the worse as a result.
KRC: Much criticisms have been directed at the way audiences heckled Miss Josie Lau’s team, i.e. the booing and catcalls. What would this episode spell for the chances of conflict resolution between Miss Lau’s team and the rest of the AWARE membership?
Dr. Gwee: Here is one irony that never fails to bother me when mostly Christian critics still complain about Miss Lau’s team being treated badly at the EGM. They are expecting an unorganised crowd of individuals from all walks of life to behave with the kind of decency denied to others by a small Christian team while in office. The better call would have been to ask each person to examine his or her own conduct from the perspective of another from a different camp. In any case, I am quite sure that there has been a lot of ground-level technicalities that didn’t become common knowledge, and these could explain the day’s rowdiness more precisely.
But I want to read all this in yet another light: what we have seen may effectively be two modes of civil behaviour whose conflict affects the way we can make objective sense of the EGM. From this perspective, both parties have been equally polite and rude but not on the same terms. The regimental quietness of one side reflected its own values of solidarity, discipline, respect for real and perceived leaders, peaceful conduct, verbal politeness, and all that. The nature of civil engagement, however, is messy by nature: it is full of open disagreements, rhetoric, wit, claims to good sense, and little triumphs. Its spirit of civility lies not in outward form but in a respect for another to be vocal and open and to challenge.
These essentially cultural differences point to the difficult task of reconciliation ahead. The central qualities all parties should have are a willingness to sit at the same table and talk and a transparency of procedures. In this respect, Miss Lau’s team is still found wanting: it should show all its cards and engage in open discussion without fear of ideological “contamination” or “unholy” compromise. But as long as AWARE keeps these individuals informed and involved, there is a lot of hope in the matter yet. Remember: only extend the fact that roughly a third has voted in favour of the now-deposed team, and you will see that diversity is exactly what the newest ex-co has inherited. Whether it can now take the hard walk of inclusiveness it preaches remains to be seen and certainly to be wished for by all of us.
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A True Cognitive Cultural History of Singapore, and the present need for foreign talent – in brief
A True Cognitive Cultural History of Singapore, and the present need for foreign talent – in brief
I really don’t understand Singaporeans’ surprise or incredulity in the face of increased foreign workers coming in to take their jobs. Sherlock Holmes once said that a true logician will be able to look at a drop of water and from there, extrapolate the existence of the ocean even if s/he had never know of its existence. An exaggeration it may be to our currently and relatively underdeveloped minds, but the principle is sound.
As I’ve said to sim and v, amongst others, before, any government has 2 choices, one, keep the people perspectivally and intellectually docile so that they can reign in perpetuity whilst maintaining an academic elite to produce the ideas (i.e. China is a quintessential case in point), or don’t impose intellectual constraints on the people and risk political longevity. Apathy has to become a part of the culture for this to succeed. And with apathy, perspectival docility, near-sighted pragmatism, penchant for the familiar, intellectual sloth, decline in generic curiosity, etc, are both effects and causes. Now how would such a people fare in globalised economics. I wonder how many people realise that there is a cultural cause, that is politically-induced, that led to India producing IT professionals amongst others whilst China was producing factory workers. In the case of Singapore, an intellectually docile people would be fine for the manufacturing phase of its development, but not when it comes to the demands of global intellectual economy. That is when the people will be told to seek their fortunes abroad, price themselves competitively, and also see an influx of the ‘foreign talent’ to circumvent the docility of the locals – which was constructed to minimize the kind of empathy that might threaten political longevity.
The Progressives vs The Traditionals - the 2 races of Singapore Past
Most of the ‘young-uns’ these days don’t know that Singapore was extremely different in the 70s and 80s. The intellectual economy was yet to be ‘centralised’ back then (i.e. China centralised it 2000 years ago and kept the masses of its inhabitants numb and relatively perspectivally and intellectually docile thereafter – which also explains why it is the longest running state in recorded human history.). In fact, the intellectual economy was being increasingly run by the Christian/Catholic/English-speaking sector. It is not because of ‘Jesus Saves!’ that this was the case. It was simply because there was more cultural collusion amongst different ‘races’ in church as opposed to other faiths which saw people of a singular ethnic group practicing a singular and historical religion. So in church, we had the cultural and perspectival inter-breeding of Eurasians, Chinese and Indians. 3 cultural perspectives were coming together – with the most vibrant being the Indians and Eurasians…with the Eurasians bringing in the ‘vibrant’ and ‘western’ component, and the Indians bringing in the intellectual and perspectival side of things. The Chinese in the aforementioned milieu benefitted greatly from this. Thus, it was not surprising that significant opposition in Singapore began to come from the Catholic quarter.
Back then, these people disavowed much association with their ‘race’ and generally lacked fluency in their ‘mother-tongues’. Thus, they were more open to other ideas as they were not insecurely biased toward their ‘own race and culture’ simply because they looked like Chinese, Malays or Indians. For myself, and as a consequence, I grew up without a conception of race. I only knew that there were intelligent and vibrant people, and that there were people who weren’t. I also realised in primary school that the top classes were mainly populated by English-speakers, who, whilst being adept in their 2nd languages, spoke English most of the time. At that time, more and more people began to conform to the perspectival and linguistic standards of this sector of society. Inter-ethnic mixing was also on the rise. People began to shy away from speaking their ‘mother-tongues’ as it denoted a penchant for the familiar and hence, ‘backward’. People were becoming culturally and perspectivally vibrant and had an intelligent opinion on many things.
‘Singlish’ (local style English) then, was also a mix between English, Malay and Mandarin/Hokkien as opposed to the present where it is generally a mixture of only Chinese and English. (I believe that the colloquial style of English indicated the degree of cultural integration) In fact, we now have 3 variants of Singlish as opposed to the past. The Chinese have a ‘Chinglish’ that comprises mainly Chinese and English; the Malays have a ‘Malglish’ that comprises Malay and English; and the Indians, an ‘Indglish’ that comprises Tamil and English. This is ‘integration’ taken a paradoxical wrong turn mate.
I wonder how many of the 4 or 5 million in this country, including its ‘great’ intellectuals, and so-called oppositional voices, realise this. If you didn't then you're as much a part of the problem that you're attempting to address. It indicates the existence of a perspectival deficiency that is a product of socialisation within this milieu. It will certainly have a host of other negative effects on your analyses, understanding and perceptions in a host of other situations. Ever tried to put a fire out with a flame? Exorcise thyself. As I've always said, it's easier to suggest a solution than to not be a part of the problem. That's the guideline I've always applied on myself. The best I can hope for is to decrease my culpability so that my problem-identification and solutions will be more accurate. The question, 'What's wrong with the world' must always be accompanied with, 'what's wrong with me'. Both have to be asked and incrementally addressed and resolved simultaneously. It is a never-ending quest, but has to be undertaken by those whom are truly interested in changing the world for the better. If not, it is simply self-indulgent vanity.
Cultural Clampdown Singapore
Anyway,
It was then (80s onwards) that a cultural clampdown began to occur in singapore. Street signs were named in ‘hanyu pinyin’ terms (romanised Chinese words); a potential Indian Prime Minister was passed over for a Chinese one; the ‘speak mandarin it’s cool’ or ‘speak mandarin it’s an advantage’ campaigns picked up pace; the SAP (Special Assistance Plan) schools which provided advanced education for mainly Chinese students finally began to come to fruition and began to produce acculturalised Chinese to take over the economy; there was increasing critique in the newspapers of ‘western values’ vs ‘asian values’ with increasing emphasis on Confucian/Chinese values thereafter; being different was increasingly frowned upon with police checks on people dressed differently; impromptu behavior was checked on by banning breakdancing in public even if it was in the void deck of flats in the 80s (I remember my being surrounded by 3 policemen whilst I was in the midst of a ‘backspin’ on a cardboard under my block one afternoon; separate cultural channels were created as opposed to the singular channel broadcasting the productions of different cultural productions – with the Indians not getting a channel until recently…Indians previously shared a channel with arts and cartoons; the initiation of a ‘mother-tongue’ policy that forbade the various ethnic groups from studying each other’s languages as a 2nd language in schools (my brother and sister, before this, studied Malay, whilst I studied Mandarin); the Chinese were spoken of by the government as ‘pragmatic and hardworking’; Chinese culture began to be celebrated in central locations whilst the celebration of other cultures were left to old ethnic enclaves such as Geylang (for the Malays) and ‘Serangoon Road (for the Indians); grander celebrations were promoted for other Chinese festivities (where I live, there are celebrations planned by the Resident Committee for Chinese New Year and the Mid-autumn Lantern festival but none for the Indian and Malay festivals); there was a major clampdown on the oppositional elements in the Catholic quarter; the ‘Zoo’ radio of Indonesia that played different types of music was blocked in favour of the local radio station that generally played only one type of music; English speaking dramas began to mainly comprise the Chinese as opposed to ‘others’, or with ‘others’ being accorded stereotypical roles that did not represent their true social characters, i.e. ‘serves you right’; public advertisements, and advertisements by corporations, and government-linked corporations only showed one ethnic group; cultural difference in school was eradicated for the stated purpose of ‘integration’ whilst only one culture and language of one ethnic group was promoted in the media and in the public…..
The above are some of the ways that singapore took the monocultural route. We could say that Singapore experienced what China did in 221 b.c. when ‘chinese’ was associated with the ‘one way’ system of Qin Shih Huang Ti as opposed to the ‘many ways’ system of the Chou era. In other words, from the late 80s onwards, Singapore, perspectivally-speaking, moved from the Chou era to the Qin era; or the Indian era to the post-Chou era; or the democratic era to the ‘Asian democratic’ era. Quite an amusing way to look at it isn’t it.
The consequence
In a cockleshell, Singapore moved to a monocultural era which can be likened to a child reared to only appreciate one type of food, friends, environment, culture, perspective, dress-style, thought, language, etc.
What do you think that is going to do to the child’s perspectival development. How do you think such a child is going to contend with novelty. Such a child is always going to go back to the familiar if given the chance. Such a child is going to reflexively discount anything new or different. Such a child is going to be more slow in processing new information. Such a child is not going to be able to sense things from different angles. But such a child will certainly not be a threat to the political longevity of any party. Thus, for instance, the longevity of the nation-state of China. Way before the west came up with the idea of the nation-state in perspectival form, China already was. The government does not have to maintain it. The people have been diminished to not want anything out of the familiar. Thus, China might always be as it always was.
Well, as I’ve always said, when we take the nation as one family, we can easily tell what’s going to happen in all situations given the dominance of this child and the methods used to rear it – what I call cognitive cultural analysis. That is why dear Singaporeans, singapore now needs ‘foreign talent’. That is why your jobs can’t be protected. The only way to protect yourself from ‘foreign talent’ is to make the methods by which talent is produced not foreign to your culture simply because it is someone else’s culture. But for that, the people must truly me the mistress and master of the political realm. When you abdicate this to the few, your complaints thereafter come across as the annoying whining of an evicted poodle. You have confused your progress in the past for the validity of a ‘one way system’. But you forget, the methods for success varies with the degree of success in varying arenas. What is a boon in one, is a disadvantage in another. It takes far-sighted pragmatism to realise this I’m afraid. It doesn’t take much intellect to advance your economic situation at the manufacturing phase, but the unfettered development of your intellect during this phase will enable you to occupy the forefront of development in the relatively intellectual and creative phase thereafter. If not, being ‘copycats’ is the best you can be.
‘Foreign talent’ is such an innocuous sounding word isn’t it. But, essentially, it refers to people who, being brought up under different cultural conditions, will be able to do things which people of other cultural conditions will necessarily require time to do given the deficiencies they will embody given their different cultural milieux. And people from the most variable cultures are generally the most equipped to be ready come what may, and do well when it does. Most people are not going to accept this as it threatens the identity upon which they base their sense of self-efficacy on – which is why I threw aside my ‘Indian’ identity when I was 18 in favour of basing my personal culture on the best elements of all cultures. But, when we base our sense of self-efficacy on nothing else but the ability to take on cultural elements of the verifiably self-efficacious of other cultures, that is when we are going to be more than we can otherwise imagine to be.
Singapore took a wrong-turn from the 80s onwards. Without critical and unbiased cultural introspection, we are going to be complaining more about its effects instead of doing something about the foundations upon which it is based, and upon which we base our present sense of self-efficacy. If it is not for present apathy and self-absorption, we will find that we will have little to complain incessantly about in the future. Ask yourselves what forms of apathy in the past has led to your present predicament. And then ask yourselves what forms of apathy you are exhibiting in the present. Both inquisitorial ventures will go far in addressing the conditions upon which your present and future complaints would be based. If not, it will cease to be an intelligent discussion, and just simply annoying.
Think about it.
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NMP Dr Thio Li-ann on her mother Dr Thio Su Mien
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Mas Selamat: Dead-end trails in hilly Johor
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Photojournalist ZAIHAN MOHD YUSOF gets on sports bike and surveys possible escape routes taken by terrorist Mas Selamat while on the run | |||||
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RECCE REPORT 1
Johor location: Oil Palm Plantation on the outskirts of Bandar Nusajaya.
This would've been the shortest escape route for Mas Selamat.
Landing at the oil palm plantation would allow him the 'perfect cover' due to its vastness. Nobody ventures there except oil palm workers, said Mr Mastur, a 25-year-old Indonesian who works on the estate.
The place is deserted as it is hilly, damp and mosquito-infested.
But this route is not without its difficulties.
On the Singapore side (Sungei Gedong), Mas Selamat would have been faced with the long fence along the live firing area.
This would have prevented him a direct line of sight to the plantation.
Also, once across, he could get lost.
Said Mr Mastur: 'He would have to depend on good navigational skills to get out of here safely. During my first year working here, I got lost many times. Every bend in the estate looks the same. You can walk the whole day and not bump into anybody. It was scary for me at first.'
Mas Selamat would also need to be an expert at finding food as there is hardly anything edible in the palm estate.
'There's no village here. The only source of food would be wild boars and snakes. And you're unlikely to find a clean source of water here,' he said.
Perhaps Mas Selamat sought help from workers in the estate.
Mr Mastur added: 'The illegal workers may not know who Mas Selamat is.
'(Even if they did) they wouldn't dare to make a police report for fear of being arrested themselves.'
If Mas Selamat was able to reach the estate's main road, lorry drivers or bikers would not mind giving a stranded person a lift.
Who knows, an unsuspecting motorist could have given him a lift all the way to Skudai, less than an hour's drive away.
RECCE REPORT 2
Johor location: Malay village in town of Nusa Jaya, about 30 minutes' drive from Second Link.
This old Malay village looks like an ideal place for an escapee to lie low.
Families and homes mean there's food, clothing and shoes that can be begged for or stolen.
It is very close to Singapore. So close that from Johor fisherman Umar Fiee's home, you can clearly see the sloped jetty where seafood is loaded onto awaiting lorries at Lim Chu Kang in Singapore.
On some days, Mr Umar, 64, said he can hear the live firing exercises near Poyan reservoir.
He has even made the watery journey himself.
In the '60s, he and his friends used to challenge each other and swim across to Singapore.
Said Mr Umar, a father of six: 'Back then the rules were more relaxed. We had no passports.
'But the trick is not to start too strong, you need to pace yourself when swimming. It usually took me about an hour.'
Nowadays, when Malaysian fishermen like Mr Umar stray too close to Singapore waters, the Singapore Police Coast Guard or soldiers tell them to turn back.
Mr Umar believes Mas Selamat could have taken advantage of outcrops like Pulau Sarimbun to take a breather.
Or he could have rested at one of the many mussel harvesting kelongs before deciding where to land.
'Unlike the Singapore kelongs, we do not keep dogs. So Mas Selamat's presence would not be detected.'
Yet, the stretch of 8km along Kampung Sungei Melayu, which is a hotspot for illegal immigrants trying to swim into Singapore, is not without danger.
Mr Umar said bodies have been found entangled in fishermen's nets, the result of 'failed attempts' to cross the straits.
Just two years ago, a female China national was a victim, he recalled.
As for food, Mas Selamat could've eaten fruits growing wild, or stolen from homes.
He said: 'Kampung people trust each other. So we leave our clothes drying out in the open. We seldom lock our doors. And there is almost no activity when it gets dark here.
'If Mas Selamat had been spotted, we would definitely know that he is not from around here.'
But most kampung folk may not be aware who Mas Selamat is or what he has done. He would've been just another passer-by.
Mr Umar said because of the lax security, bicycles and motorcycles have gone missing in the village. With a stolen getaway vehicle, Mas Selamat would have been able to find his way out of the kampung to the highway some 10km away.
From there, Skudai is less than 20km away.
RECCE REPORT 3
Johor location: These sit on the left and right of Causeway respectively.
In order to land on this stretch, Mas Selamat would have to start swimming from Woodlands, which Malaysian authorities believe he did.
Unlike the other two spots, this is built-up urban landscape, with a coastline dotted with food stalls, picnicking crowds and parked cars.
There is a bus service that plies up and down Jalan Skudai, the main artery heading northwards into Malaysia.
Despite the distance, with the help of currents, Mas Selamat's swim across the Johor Strait would be less taxing, said Mr Mohd Shafie, 26, a cleaner at the beach.
He said: 'Every morning, I find oil drums, plastic containers, styrofoam boxes and bottles along the shore. If he had been among these items floating in the water, no one would've seen him.'
The advantage of this destination is that Mas Selamat would've been able to quickly blend in the crowd once he reached the shore.
'There is a city mentality here. Nobody cares who you are. If Mas Selamat put a baseball hat on, he would look like an average person in the city,' said Mr Mohd.
That makes this landing point an obvious stop, which is probably why Singapore Coast Guard patrols seem to be more frequent.
Added Mr Mohd: 'I have seen secondary school students swimming from Stulang Laut to the half-way point between Malaysia and Singapore on the Johor Strait.
'They can get there in about 25 minutes before the Singapore Police patrol boats warn them to move back into Malaysian waters. Mas Selamat would've needed a lot of luck.'
Trail of a fugitive...
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Mas Selamat: Dead-end trails in hilly Johor
Mas Selamat Caught | |||||
'Jalan Selamat' Dead-end trails in hilly Johor | |||||
Photojournalist ZAIHAN MOHD YUSOF gets on sports bike and surveys possible escape routes taken by terrorist Mas Selamat while on the run | |||||
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RECCE REPORT 1
Johor location: Oil Palm Plantation on the outskirts of Bandar Nusajaya.
This would've been the shortest escape route for Mas Selamat.
Landing at the oil palm plantation would allow him the 'perfect cover' due to its vastness. Nobody ventures there except oil palm workers, said Mr Mastur, a 25-year-old Indonesian who works on the estate.
The place is deserted as it is hilly, damp and mosquito-infested.
But this route is not without its difficulties.
On the Singapore side (Sungei Gedong), Mas Selamat would have been faced with the long fence along the live firing area.
This would have prevented him a direct line of sight to the plantation.
Also, once across, he could get lost.
Said Mr Mastur: 'He would have to depend on good navigational skills to get out of here safely. During my first year working here, I got lost many times. Every bend in the estate looks the same. You can walk the whole day and not bump into anybody. It was scary for me at first.'
Mas Selamat would also need to be an expert at finding food as there is hardly anything edible in the palm estate.
'There's no village here. The only source of food would be wild boars and snakes. And you're unlikely to find a clean source of water here,' he said.
Perhaps Mas Selamat sought help from workers in the estate.
Mr Mastur added: 'The illegal workers may not know who Mas Selamat is.
'(Even if they did) they wouldn't dare to make a police report for fear of being arrested themselves.'
If Mas Selamat was able to reach the estate's main road, lorry drivers or bikers would not mind giving a stranded person a lift.
Who knows, an unsuspecting motorist could have given him a lift all the way to Skudai, less than an hour's drive away.
RECCE REPORT 2
Johor location: Malay village in town of Nusa Jaya, about 30 minutes' drive from Second Link.
This old Malay village looks like an ideal place for an escapee to lie low.
Families and homes mean there's food, clothing and shoes that can be begged for or stolen.
It is very close to Singapore. So close that from Johor fisherman Umar Fiee's home, you can clearly see the sloped jetty where seafood is loaded onto awaiting lorries at Lim Chu Kang in Singapore.
On some days, Mr Umar, 64, said he can hear the live firing exercises near Poyan reservoir.
He has even made the watery journey himself.
In the '60s, he and his friends used to challenge each other and swim across to Singapore.
Said Mr Umar, a father of six: 'Back then the rules were more relaxed. We had no passports.
'But the trick is not to start too strong, you need to pace yourself when swimming. It usually took me about an hour.'
Nowadays, when Malaysian fishermen like Mr Umar stray too close to Singapore waters, the Singapore Police Coast Guard or soldiers tell them to turn back.
Mr Umar believes Mas Selamat could have taken advantage of outcrops like Pulau Sarimbun to take a breather.
Or he could have rested at one of the many mussel harvesting kelongs before deciding where to land.
'Unlike the Singapore kelongs, we do not keep dogs. So Mas Selamat's presence would not be detected.'
Yet, the stretch of 8km along Kampung Sungei Melayu, which is a hotspot for illegal immigrants trying to swim into Singapore, is not without danger.
Mr Umar said bodies have been found entangled in fishermen's nets, the result of 'failed attempts' to cross the straits.
Just two years ago, a female China national was a victim, he recalled.
As for food, Mas Selamat could've eaten fruits growing wild, or stolen from homes.
He said: 'Kampung people trust each other. So we leave our clothes drying out in the open. We seldom lock our doors. And there is almost no activity when it gets dark here.
'If Mas Selamat had been spotted, we would definitely know that he is not from around here.'
But most kampung folk may not be aware who Mas Selamat is or what he has done. He would've been just another passer-by.
Mr Umar said because of the lax security, bicycles and motorcycles have gone missing in the village. With a stolen getaway vehicle, Mas Selamat would have been able to find his way out of the kampung to the highway some 10km away.
From there, Skudai is less than 20km away.
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Johor location: These sit on the left and right of Causeway respectively.
In order to land on this stretch, Mas Selamat would have to start swimming from Woodlands, which Malaysian authorities believe he did.
Unlike the other two spots, this is built-up urban landscape, with a coastline dotted with food stalls, picnicking crowds and parked cars.
There is a bus service that plies up and down Jalan Skudai, the main artery heading northwards into Malaysia.
Despite the distance, with the help of currents, Mas Selamat's swim across the Johor Strait would be less taxing, said Mr Mohd Shafie, 26, a cleaner at the beach.
He said: 'Every morning, I find oil drums, plastic containers, styrofoam boxes and bottles along the shore. If he had been among these items floating in the water, no one would've seen him.'
The advantage of this destination is that Mas Selamat would've been able to quickly blend in the crowd once he reached the shore.
'There is a city mentality here. Nobody cares who you are. If Mas Selamat put a baseball hat on, he would look like an average person in the city,' said Mr Mohd.
That makes this landing point an obvious stop, which is probably why Singapore Coast Guard patrols seem to be more frequent.
Added Mr Mohd: 'I have seen secondary school students swimming from Stulang Laut to the half-way point between Malaysia and Singapore on the Johor Strait.
'They can get there in about 25 minutes before the Singapore Police patrol boats warn them to move back into Malaysian waters. Mas Selamat would've needed a lot of luck.'
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Aware: Straight in a Crooked World
As Singapore caves in to the homosexual lobby, Muslims here must remain steadfast in guarding themselves and their loved ones from falling astray.
The homosexual agenda is fast gaining ground in Singapore.
Earlier last year, homosexual activists tried to alter the country’s laws to recognise anal sex as a legitimate form of sexual intercourse. While the effort was a failure, the episode has garnered enough sympathy and visibility towards the homosexual cause.
Today, speaking out against homosexuality is fast becoming some sort of crime. Being gay or having lesbian tendencies is accepted as part of an ‘alternative lifestyle’. Us who make our opinion known against homosexuality are being lambasted as ‘intolerant and bigoted’ while they who condone anal sex are being exalted as ‘enlightened and educated’.
Teenagers and children are not spared from the homosexual agenda either. A sex education guide distributed to schools in Singapore by the local women’s group Association of Women for Action and Research (AWARE), teaches students that “anal sex can be healthy or neutral if practised with consent and with a condom” and that “homosexuality is perfectly normal. Just like heterosexuality, it is simply the way you are.”
At the rate at which events are unfolding, it is my prediction that one day, the homosexual lobby will make it illegal to even speak out against gays and lesbians – similar to what the Jewish lobby has achieved in Europe who made the questioning of the holocaust a crime.
Sadly, even religious groups here have decided to stay in neutral gear when it comes to the issue. Mosques and churches here have chosen to remain relatively silent in the light of nation-wide homosexual debates - even though the Bible and Quran have clearly commanded their followers to speak out against these sexual perversions.
As prophesised by Muhammad, the end of days will be characterized by widespread sins and sexual promiscuity of various natures. Some day, tolerance of homosexuality will give way to full acceptance in this country. When this happens, the Muslim community must resist the temptation to cave in to conformity and political correctness like everyone else, and rally around the teachings of our Prophet and the Quran.
This effort must start today for there are signs that the disease is slowly creeping into our society. There has to be a greater resolution amongst our leaders, mosques and institutions to educate our youngsters on the calamities of homosexuality from an Islamic perspective.
For a start, topics on homosexuality have to be consciously adopted in the existing curriculum of our youngster’s religious education and discoursed adjacently with more conventional topics on sexuality education. Our youngsters must be made aware of the various sexual perversions that are permeating society and the reasons why Islam forbids them. They must be inoculated on the threats they pose towards our values which have centred on the family as the basic unit of society.
Next, Muslim leaders cannot continue to turn a blind eye towards nation-wide homosexuality debates. Islam’s view on homosexuality as a sexual perversion must be communicated clearly and visibly for the reference of the younger and more impressionable generation of Muslims who may be swayed by secular ideals.
On top of that, there has to be greater effort to educate parents to look out for and handle sexually deviant behaviours in their children –either heterosexual or homosexual. Self help groups in the community are currently engaged in an intense battle to stem the tide of teenage pregnancies among the Muslim community. It will be beneficial if an equal amount of effort be placed to educate the community on homosexual relationships and the damage it does to society and the family values that we hold dear.
Finally, the community needs to look at the feasibility in establishing a self-help programme that caters specifically to the needs of local Muslims who are facing homosexual tendencies and have indicated their desire for help. The topic of homosexuality is not new in Islam and the religion does have a system to rehabilitate sexual deviants who have strayed from the path. It is about time we train scholars and counsellors who are apt in this particular field, a field that will keep the community straight in a world that has turned crooked.
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MAS SELAMAT: Could he have attacked S'pore?
By Sujin Thomas | ||
| Experts say that Mas Selamat may have been planning to attack an 'iconic target'. Examples include the Singapore Flyer or prominent commercial buildings which form Singapore's skyline in the Central Business District. -- ST PHOTO: ALPHONSUS CHERN |
Ms Sidney Jones of the International Crisis Group, who has closely tracked extremist groups in the region, said a critical mass of people is key.
Fighting terror like fighting virus: SM Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong, who is warded in the Singapore General Hospital for chicken pox and is expected to be discharged later this week, commented in a statement yesterday on the re-arrest of Mas Selamat Kastari. 'Despite Mas Selamat's re-arrest, the threat of terrorism remains very real. The fact that he was able to swim away despite our tightened border security following his escape from Whitley Road Detention Centre shows that it is not impossible for a very determined and trained terrorist to enter or leave Singapore undetected. Strong cooperation helped: George Yeo Comments by Foreign Affairs Minister George Yeo on the re-arrest of Mas Selamat. He spoke to reporters on the sidelines of Vesak Day celebrations at the Fo Guang Shan Buddhist centre in Punggol on Saturday. 'What is wonderful is the strong cooperation between the security forces in Malaysia and Singapore, because without strong cooperation and mutual trust, he would not have been recaptured. |
She added: 'So far, there isn't an example in the region of something that's worked with just two or three people. It would have been very hard.'
Dr Kumar Ramakrishna, head of the Centre of Excellence for National Security at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies (RSIS), said: 'Mas Selamat is a strategic personnel whose strengths lie in planning and training people in basic bomb-making and surveillance.
'But even with his ability, he may not be able to launch an attack if he does not have the manpower, money and support to do so.'
However, it is his nature to plan attacks while staying under the radar, said Dr Rohan Gunaratna, head of the International Centre for Political Violence and Terrorism Research at RSIS.
'Even if he had limited resources, he is in touch with the Indonesian and Malaysian branches of Jemaah Islamiah and is an Al Qaeda-trained operator.'
Mas Selamat received help from two Malaysian friends who were ordinary JI members, after he escaped from Whitley Road Detention Centre on Feb 27 last year and escaped to Johor.
They gave him shelter for free for more than a year in a secluded kampung house in Skudai, Johor. All three were arrested on April 1.
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MAS SELEMAT: S'pore, M'sia to meet
By Carolyn Hong, Malaysia Bureau Chief | ||
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KUALA LUMPUR - POLICE chief Musa Hassan on Saturday said that Malaysian security officers will meet their Singapore counterparts as soon as investigations into Mas Selamat Kastari's activities are completed.
It is understood that Malaysia is keen to find out from Mas Selamat the extent of terror group JI's network in Malaysia, particularly in the southernmost state and its links to Singapore.
Sources say that Mas Selamat was aided by two JI members after his escape to Johor from Singapore's Whitley Road Detention Centre on Feb 27 last year. He was captured in a dawn raid on April 1 at a village house in Skudai.
Tan Sri Musa on Saturday refused to disclose details of Malaysia's questioning of the leader of the regional terror network, saying that it was a security matter.
Prime Minister Najib Razak had said Mas Selamat was plotting a lot of things relating to Singapore, while Home Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said he was planning 'something' that allowed Malaysia to arrest him.
Mr Musa said Mr Khoo had telephoned him on Saturday to express appreciation over Malaysia's capture of the terrorist.
'He expressed his thanks for our assistance. We have close cooperation with the Singapore police,' the Malaysian Inspector-General of Police told The Straits Times.
He said there were plans for a meeting between Malaysian and Singapore police.
Singapore police could be making a trip to Malaysia soon to meet their counterparts over this case but Mr Musa has pointed out that Malaysia wanted to complete its investigations first.
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LESSONS FROM AWAREL: The GRC parallels
LESSONS FROM AWARE
The GRC parallels
THE Aware saga and the valuable lessons learnt from it have made me better appreciate our system of group representation constituencies (GRCs), despite the fact that, until now, I was never an admirer of the system.
The Aware incidents have glaringly highlighted the fragility of our multiracial and multireligious society. It has given us a useful peek into the potential troubles that may crop up when there is a polarisation of a particular view championed on grounds of a faith - real or perceived.
The Association of Women for Action and Research (Aware) was an interest group with merely 300 members until recently. Yet, the racial and religious mix of its 'new' executive committee made some Singaporeans uncomfortable.
Imagine the situation if Parliament was composed of members from a single race or religion. If there were no GRCs and only single-member constituencies, a freak result could bring about such a crisis. Think of the discomfort and distrust it would cause.
The Aware saga clearly demonstrated to us that a faith-based approach to a broader issue - even if it is merely a perception - can breed distrust. One can safely conjecture that the same can be said of national issues.
The GRC system seems an effective means to meet the higher objective of ensuring reasonable minority representation. I now accept and see it as the best solution because the consequences without such safeguards can be dire.
Look no further than the Aware story. We cannot take peace and harmony for granted. The penalty for complacency is never pre-paid and the price will never be known until it is time to pay. So let us be aware.
I urge the Government to impose safeguards to ensure that the GRC system is not misused by any future rogue government by changing the ground rules. I see the GRC concept as a 'fire extinguisher' and would hate to see Singapore lose it.
Johnny Heng
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We want our child to grow up non-discriminative
WE REFER to last Saturday's report, 'Aware programme 'exceeded guidelines'', and the justifications given by concerned parents (both in the press and online) that homosexuality is not neutral because it is 'not natural' and illegal.
There is increasing evidence from psychologists and scientists that suggests that sexual orientations go deeper than mere lifestyle choices and there may be genetics at work that swing people one way or another. Even nature (animal kingdom) has numerous bisexual, asexual and transsexual examples as biology evolves with its environment.
Socially and culturally, different sexual orientations existed thousands of years ago (for example, in Greece, China and India) and continue to exist today. The law on homosexuality in Singapore is inherited from the British Victorian code of conduct.
For the record, we are a happily married heterosexual couple and proud parents of one. As concerned parents and with one of us having had a convent education, with its obligatory sex education programme that preached only abstinence (complete with a scary abortion video), we feel it is high time youngsters were given a more realistic and complete picture, especially in this Internet age, of what is involved as they develop sexually. They should be taught not to be ashamed of their body and respect it at the same time; and also that pleasure is not a sin but may come with negative consequences, including HIV/Aids.
We hope the Ministry of Education (MOE) will consider the feelings of parents like us also who are neither 'liberal' nor 'conservative' but are concerned that our child gets a well-balanced, progressive education.
Singapore is a multicultural and multireligious society and MOE must recognise that not all religious groups and non-believers necessarily think of homosexuality as immoral or criminal. At the end of the day, what we want for our child is that he grows up non-discriminative and non-prejudicial, and is able to make critical decisions, and love and be loved in return.
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Aware: Leaked Email to Prime Minister
Dear Prime Minister,
I am writing as a concerned Singaporean and a mother to request official scrutiny into press reporting of the AWARE saga.
I'll share my first-person observations at the AWARE EGM in relation to Straits Times coverage of the event.
1) My 18-year-old daughter and I went to the AWARE EGM on Saturday, 2 May 2009, to observe the proceedings of a civil organisation but the progression of events left us with much disquiet.
a) We noticed a large contingent of men upon entering the meeting hall as we were directed to the 'overflow area' in Hall 403 where we sat in the front portion (we were among the last 200 to enter at 2.50pm after queuing from 1.30pm). The men formed about a quarter of the meeting, occupying seats in the back half of the 'overflow'. My daughter observed that this was a meeting for a women's association and was surprised at the substantial male turn-out. I reserved my comments.
b) We were accosted by ear-deafening 'boos' and jeers as we passed the section, but realised that they were not directed at us as much as at the speaker onstage. We were quite unable to hear the opening speech being given by Ms Josie Lau, then President of AWARE, as the heckling went on unabated in tenor and base. In fact, the aggression was so vehement that my daughter was in tears from the sense of intimidation and oppression, even though the hooliganism was not directed at us.
c) It could be clearly observed that a number of men in the front of the section were attired in white 'We are AWARE' t-shirts or pink tops.
d) There were also more than 20 foreign men and women in their midst.
e) Then as the meeting progressed, more than half of them moved to stand with and around the 'old guard' of AWARE, and at the floor speakers' area, continuing to disrupt the proceedings despite calls for order.
e) What really flabbergasted us was that soon some of these associate members with no voting rights took the stand to proudly declare their homosexual status to loud applause from the 'old guard' camp as they spoke in support of the Comprehensive Sexuality Education programme. In fact, it was impossible for ordinary members like me to try to ask any questions on the floor (as I tried to queue up to do so) as the 'old guard' with half of them men effectively 'barricading' the area and monopolising the microphones in a raucous commotion.
We came away from the whole event rather disillusioned by AWARE and what it professed to stand for. They may still be helping women, marginalised or needy, but they are also involved in the political agenda of some minority groups, even with covert foreign interference.
2) I'm also surprised and deeply troubled that the reporting in The Straits Times has not been honest in presenting the full picture to the public, especially concerned parents following the AWARE saga. There was a concerted effort by both the press and TV coverage not to mention the significant presence of the homosexual community. If I had not been there, I would never have known the truth.
a) In fact, I witnessed the main reporter responsible for blowing up the whole AWARE story (Wong Kim Hoh) hobnobbing with the homosexual fraternity at the EGM.
b) Some members of the press and TV were candidly jubilant as they celebrated the passing of the 'no confidence' vote by punching their fists in the air and hugging the 'old guard' they were standing with.
c) In the sweep of fervent support, the constitutional amendments were also made to allow men and foreign women full voting rights (in a local women's association that makes the CEDAW report on the state of women in Singapore). In the perspective that such an amendment was thrown out in the previous AGM, the motives may be called into question. The press made no mention of this important development.
I question the cover-up in the press.
In review of newspaper coverage of AWARE developments, I'm also beginning to think that press focus on the sensitive issue of religious involvement was but a calculated red herring thrown out to manipulate public sentiments.
Sir, I am pleading for the authorities to look into this matter as I am becoming increasingly alarmed that minority groups with a political agenda may not have just reached its grasp into a vulnerable women's group, and through it attempt to distort our children's views on sexuality, but has actually infiltrated the press to block out news and prevent the public from accessing the truth. I actually feel frightened that the press in Singapore can attempt to shape my views as it wishes by misinformation or partial information.
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